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January 09, 2009


Louise Fletcher

I guess the reason my small business takes me 70 hours a week to run is that I'm just not a Gen Y ;-)

Jim Durbin

Louise, I have the answer. Hire a Gen Y person to do the work for you, and then you'll only have to pay them for 35 hours of work, but you'll be billing 70. Problem solved!

Someone tell Obama there's no need to appoint old fuddy-duddy's to his cabinet. Just throw in some Gen Y folks and the recession will be solved.

Tracy Tran

As a Gen Y person, I agree with this. To be honest, I think these Gen Y people are looking way too much into pop culture to think they can do the job. People think they can be the next business version of Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco or Mark Zuckerberg, but in reality, those are rarities.

There are three choices Gen Y should look: either accept what's been taken, be forefront to your organization and actually share an idea, not complaining, or leave. We truly want ot be independent, the problem is, most of them don't know what to do.

Jim Durbin

Good point Tracy. I'm not saying Gen Y shouldn't look at the work situation and look to fix it - but shouldn't people actually accomplish something before they get all excited?

Gen X had their dotcom heroes - and a lot of them turned out to be busts. It's the second and third businesses that give you credibility, not your ability to sell a company a company when the market is high.

Tyler Hurst

It's not all of us. Some people (Gen X/Y borderline kids) might only work four hours between 9-5, but we work late into the night. We work on weekends. We live, eat and breathe our jobs.

People like me don't even know what an away message is. Our phones are never off, our laptops are never left at home, we are constantly switched on, no matter what we're doing where we are.

It's the companies that refuse to adapt to a 24/7 world that are in the wrong, as well as the kids who seem to be so good at video games you'd think someone was paying them. There's a way to accommodate both sides.

The companies and people that do are better off for it.

Jim Durbin

Tyler - another good point. The idea of working 9-5 is one that should be re-examined, although I do have to say as someone who works all hours, it's a lot smarter to work 9-5 from a productivity standpoint. A good night's sleep is a great motivator.

The problem with companies is they don't trust us to do a good job - they don't trust us to do our best. They don't trust us.

Of course, this generation is voting for people in government who also don't trust people to take care of themselves. It's a startling disconnect to hear people say in one breath they want more responsibility, and in the next, talk about the wonders of bigger government.

I would love to see the vast majority of Gen Y start their own companies, strike out, and brush aside outmoded rules of how to work. It would make them better citizens, stronger people, and make this country far more self-reliant.

Proclaiming greatness before actually doing it isn't going to get the job done. And that's the problem. It's not Gen Y. It's the cheerleading, which half the time is someone older trying to be cool by siding with the youth.


I'm very interested in learning about what the color of someones skin has to do with this. The implications from lopping everyone into a nice little box for easy brushing, with that wide bristle, reads a bit sophomoric and your credibility is automatically decreased. Me? I'm just a casual observer who's had their own issues with Gen Y, but certainly wouldn't categorize them using race.

Jim Durbin

Incirlik - a fair question.

In this case, it speaks to a privileged subset of Gen Y that went to good colleges, work in fields that don't require years of expertise to get noticed, and are almost all white.

I'm aware you don't know me, but for someone like me to use the race card in any setting is pretty much unheard of.

It's relevant because it's true. I'm a well educated white male fortunate enough to have a lot of contacts in a lot of places. If someone like me is complaining about my place in the world, it's a failure of spirit and character.

And these people were me 10 years ago. I grew up. So will they.

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